For Ross to have a ruined marriage and for them to not even get back together. Share. It was ugly. Ross talks about it to his friends and … Finally, during the argument at Rachel’s apartment, she states “We were on a break!” Conclusion: So, from all this, you can see that it was Rachel's fault for not caring enough about her relationship with Ross, and then after dumping him herself, she has no right to dictate what he does afterward, especially since Ross already caught her with the guy who causes his jealousy to begin with. Posted by 9 hours ago. Rachel ended the relationship. I can understand the “technically, he didn’t cheat” argument, but their fight was so stupid/dramatic and they SUCKED at communication. Everyone and their mother made him the villain and no. -: Respect is of foremost importance in any relationship. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. She wants to be all dramatic because Ross makes a list to decide who he wants to be with. Were they really on a "break" ? ‘Wasn’t that enough of a break?’ ‘I don’t mean that kind of break.’ There’s nothing worse than the last day of holiday. Go figure.Friends s3 e15: The One Where Ross and Rachel Take a Break Oh… It's maybe not fair for her to rub it in Ross' face the way she does when they briefly reconcile in season 4, but I'm totally on her side when it comes to the 'we were on a break' thing. Everything settled down after that anyway, so it seems Ross made tantrums for nothing. We all know … Thread starter CBRorBust; Start date Apr 30, 2004; Prev. And even more, later Mark recognises that he likes Rachel, so Ross weren't insane about that. Press the button start search and wait a little while. We know they won’t, so we envision the next fight without even realizing it. Then he finally stood up for himself and demanded to be treated like an equal in the relationship, and her response was to hurt him as much as possible and make him think they were broken up, as retaliation for his audacity to say she should show him a little respect. In her apartment. There’s no doubt about it, no confusion, no debate, no controversy. With Jennifer Aniston, Courteney Cox, Lisa Kudrow, Matt LeBlanc. We Were On A Break! 82 votes. You must be logged in to vote. Also, op could use 'moo argument' and didn't. 4 talking about this. He basically doesn’t trust her with Mark and assumes he was right about him when he heard him in the background (valid assumption at that point but only at that point - not ever before - but it shouldn’t matter because they were “broken up,” remember? she can’t break up with him and then say he’s a cheater when he does something broken up people do. Words and vibes were exchanged and we decided we should maybe just take a breather. When you really step back and look at it, Rachel is a horribly selfish, spoiled, manipulative and terrible human being. When women say you are on a break it means you aren't together. Until one day, during a tiny argument you hear a sentence that hits you like a bucket of cold water: “We need to take a break.” Personally, I don’t believe in breaks. It's just that Rachel did good so she retained her career. Joined Jan 20, 2003. She tried to have one actual job as a waitress and she was lousy at it. Arguing is a good example. “From us”. One might also add that by this point in the show, Rachel was perfectly fine with Ross cheating on 2 other people for her (kissing him when he was dating Julie and Bonnie). She's not thinking 'well it's ok, we DID break up for 12 hours that night'. Regardless of the technicality, he’s such a hypocrite. And even more, Ross was afraid that she was cheating him with Mark, and when Ross calls Rachel, she is passing the grief with... Mark. It's up to Rachel whether he wants to take back Ross with the information she had. 17 Jun 08. no one to cheat on. hide. Broke up Ross and Julie after she found out he liked her. Making a claim. But, no one is saying that. Of course not, but she's really calling the kettle black here. Who do you support on the 'we were on a break' argument? Maybe you should've stayed away from Ross and kept your unstable and selfish feelings to yourself and let him live out his relationship with Julie. So I didn’t go near him all week. Cookies help us deliver our Services. She even actively tried to subotage those relationships (both times using bad haircuts... That's a weird theme I only now notice...). She admitted that’s not really what she wanted, him too, but for argument’s sake let’s say they did technically break up. share. Do they really believe that’s the end? Who do you support on the 'we were on a break' argument? Once that point is clear, we have to say that in this particular case we are talking about something different. He can't just say something like it wasn't violating any rules, therefore they should get back together. No. Admittedly Ross went way over the top with his jealousy, but it’s a sitcom and they do things for comedic effect. What Ross did is a betrayal of their relationship and it absolutely is fair enough for Rachel to consider it cheating. Now she started the job without facing any problems except Ross getting jealous over Mark for no reason. She caught a nasty attitude toward Julie and the relationship in general because she found out Ross liked her. singlewahm. ‘You’ve just had a holiday,’ I pointed out, trying not to yawn. It has nothing to do with the technicality though. Just because Ross says they were on a break doesn't mean that Rachel has to get back with him. The thing is if Ross cheated on Rachel. You’re saying Rachel wasn’t obligated to take him back - no one disagrees with that. level 2. Ross dude. report. So much of how they handled it could have prevented it, but Ross is the one who carried out his projected insecurities and trust issues, so he’s in the wrong in my opinion. ), then expects forgiveness for actually carrying out the act of sleeping with someone else two minutes after supposedly breaking up. Let's say even if Ross was right, it's all up to Rachel to decide if he still wants to take back Ross with the information she just got. in the morning they got together. But I think he looked insensitive because he kissed someone else in less than 24 hours, They were on a break, but Ross is a man-whore and should've waited more than 24 hours, I am patrick's roommate and therefore do not know what the confederate flying flag f*ck this means, Anyone who does that shit over a break doesn't deserve to be taken back, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. They share their own experiences when it comes to taking a break, and how they spent their time - good, bad, and ugly. If he had been more patient and treat Rachel's career as competition, they still would've been together. That's another reason it's invalid-----There was no consensus reached and if he hadn't acted possessive about her new job and barged into her office almost setting it on fire, they wouldn't have been on the rocks or needed to take a break in the first place-----That was his behavior, that was his fault. Discussion. I don't think that Rachel was ever perfect, but I strongly disagree that she's incompetent. Events leading up to the break-up of Ross and Rachel. Rachel can’t have it both ways. When women say you are on a break it means you aren't together. First of all it's just a secretarial job, and there's three of them in Joanna's office, I'm pretty sure you don't need a degree that's difficult to attain, plus we don't know if Rach has one but I think she did since she used to be rich. On February 13th 1997, the world changed forever. 1 response. Update: 2019-07-23 1. Let’s break it down: “Were Ross and Rachel on a break”…yes absolutely. Discussion. We had a rough ride, I blamed him. The book’s protagonists, Liv and Adam, are equal parts endearing and infuriating as they try to figure out what they want from life—and whether that includes one another. It wasn't meant for her eyes, so Ross didn't mean to hurt her. Ross. Ross wanted to get back together, heard Mark was at her apartment and got depressed, drunk and slept with someone. It may not be cheating on paper, but the message delivered was basically it’s only okay for him to do it but not even the idea (and HIS idea at that, not Rachel’s) of her doing it. And even more, later Mark recognises that he likes Rachel, so Ross weren't insane about that. A subreddit for fans of the popular hit TV sitcom, Friends. A proven incompetent person wouldn't have numerous and continuous opportunities offered to her, so you can't say you can't give people any chances. She did it when he was with Julie, and also the bald girl, and she wanted to also do it to Emily when she's gonna get married to Ross, just coz both of them think they're OTP and disregard everyone. What is an argument? That would be some kind of slavery. 10 months ago. And it's not only her that had chances like that, most of the friends had like Joey getting in the museum and Chandler's firm; or Phoebe working in Chandler's and Joey's jobs. But he didn't cheated. Ross and Rachel went on a break for the very first time in 'The One Where Ross And Rachel Take A Break'. Does that compel her to take him back? And that's not true. Last Monday, I had an argument with John Holmes and we kind of broke up/took a break. Rachel. She was a hypocrite because she always did what she hated Ross for, cheating. Yesterday, we made up and had quite a nice ride. That would mean that ‘we were on a break’ was in fact her breaking up with Ross.” With that said, most users agree it wasn’t really right of Ross to sleep with someone else so soon. I've watched almost all of the Friends episodes and I've hear repeatedly the "we were on a break" argument between Rachel and Ross, but I never actually saw what Ross did to Rachel while they where supposedly on a break. Rachel is the true villain of the relationship. And even more, Ross was afraid that she was cheating him with Mark, and when Ross calls Rachel, she is passing the grief with... Mark. She broke up with him. Rachel was upset at Ross’s jealousy over her male coworker and told him that maybe they needed a break. Wrong argument. In Ross' mind, all his fears were true. Ross didn’t handle things the best way but I can’t blame him one bit for not trusting her. We replay the last argument in our mind and expect a repeat. done. Also he had huge trust issues which she should have been sensitive to because his first wife blindsided him by leaving him for someone else after years of marriage. The technicality doesn't oblige Rachel to get back with Ross, relationships don't work like that. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Or is it a blip? Ross. If Rachel doesn't want to be with Ross, for whatever reason it is, that's fine, and he can't do nothing about it. Rachel said, "We need a break from us." My boyfriend and I have been dating for 5 years, we actually started dating when we were 17. While what he did can be seen as dickish & hurtful, it wasn't cheating. Ross dude. I thought there was something missing, the story was original but not real, the back and forth between the characters were confusing, not very well developed. We all know the story. Bitch! If anything, Ross should have dumped her, broken contact and moved on with his life way before that. Nope. And Ross didn’t debate it, didn’t counter it, didn’t fight it. During those eight years, we were on and off for a variety of reasons. We want and expect that the person should change the behaviors that get under our skin. But the truth is she wasn’t busy, she was incompetent. We were on a break is a book about the funny side of a break up, between a couple that instead of getting married decided to take a break. The phrase has its roots in the fifteenth episode of the third season of Friends, titled "The One Where Ross And Rachel Take A Break", when a rift between Ross Geller and Rachel Greene (a couple at the time) came to a head. Please do not reload the page during the search. Two, She only decides to give him a chance because she sees the prom video. So, Ross' "We were on a break!" They were no longer in a relationship. It’s a passive-aggressive way of letting other guys know she’s taken, and it shows a lack of trust, but it’s something you talk about like adults you don’t end the relationship over it. At the same time he knew that this guy only helped her get the job because he was attracted to her, and she was definitely flirting with him in Ross’s presence while ignoring Ross pretty badly. 4 days 14 hours left. Where's the actual affection for Ross, for the person he is? K. katerkat I wine a lot...it makes me feel better. Were Ross and Rachel really on a break? Description. Also we never really see the other person's perspective like Julie. What happened? The fact that she was accepted when she easily could have been turned down proves already she's a capable person. Sarah & Kaela are talking about taking a break from trying to conceive. When I watched it all I could think of was how it's not gonna pass up for today's show standards because of how little regard they did to Julie and her feelings. At the time, Ross mistakenly suspected that Rachel was having an affair with a co-worker of hers, Mark Robinson, and had subsequently frequently complained about how much time she had been spend… Clear as the sunshine, they were on a break. And she admitted she wasn't ever motivated in it because it's not her passion, and that is fashion, she had all the ideas and motivation for it. As a matter of fact, Rachel did become great at her job and her career only went upwards from then on. I'm not sure how much of the detail you … Ross saw her running around frantically, spending insane amounts of hours at work trying to compensate for the fact that she was incapable of doing the job, and he didn’t want to hurt her by telling her the truth. Bouncing between England and Mexico, Kelk’s novel alternates between her characters’ duelling perspectives. It's like saying everyone in field of acting is bad since it happens everytime, or saying doctors working in operations shallow since they have to spend extra hours. He (rightfully so) blamed me. Argument is completely valid. Now when Mark left, there had to be some shakeup since she was left with the responsibilities of another employee so she was already handling a 2-man job. She didnt mean "break up." Why should he? And, they share comments from listeners about when and why they took a break and how it helped (or not)! I know things hasn’t been going smoothly for either of us. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Using file-sharing servers API, our site will find the e-book file in various formats (such as PDF, EPUB and other). You can't force another person to make a mutual decision by yourself. This year has been the toughest for us, we quarreled more often than recent years. It’s a fight. So on Monday he asked for a break,on reasons that we have lost our connection,we quarrel too often,he finds it difficult to impress me, individual issues. She accused him repeatidly and consistently through the years of cheating on her. The ideal argument parser will recognize both short and long option flags, preserve the order of positional arguments, and allow both options and arguments to be specified in any order relative to each other. That's one. Besides all of these things, Rachel was so dismissive of Ross's interests, career, and educational achievement. Rachel clearly told “Maybe we should take a break”. But indeed, no one, never, can force anyone to be with someone he/she doesn't want to. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. They were no longer in a relationship. You should do this before your self- respect starts to disintegrate. February 12, 2019 March 14, 2019 justtalkingshep. 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